Comments on: Anglicizing Spanish (2) http://www.linguism.co.uk/language/anglicizing-spanish-2 Language in a word Thu, 02 Sep 2010 21:13:52 +0200 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: John Cowan http://www.linguism.co.uk/language/anglicizing-spanish-2/comment-page-1#comment-8702 John Cowan Wed, 13 May 2009 23:28:47 +0000 http://www.linguism.co.uk/?p=72#comment-8702 If you want to see < in your post, type the four letters < instead. In the U.S. we do much the same things, but since U.S. Spanish has <i>seseo</i> and <i>yeïsmo</i>, we say /s/ for <i>s</i>, /z/ for <i>z</i> (to use /s/ for <i>z</i> is the mark of a sophisticate), and either /l/ or /j/ for <i>ll</i>. It's not unknown for /j/ to be used for Italian <i>ll</i> as well, by false analogy! If you want to see < in your post, type the four letters &lt; instead.

In the U.S. we do much the same things, but since U.S. Spanish has seseo and yeïsmo, we say /s/ for s, /z/ for z (to use /s/ for z is the mark of a sophisticate), and either /l/ or /j/ for ll. It’s not unknown for /j/ to be used for Italian ll as well, by false analogy!

]]> By: Nigel Greenwood http://www.linguism.co.uk/language/anglicizing-spanish-2/comment-page-1#comment-1675 Nigel Greenwood Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:42:26 +0000 http://www.linguism.co.uk/?p=72#comment-1675 Sorry, just can't cope with the angled brackets! The 3 examples I typed were Angel, Miguel & Argüelles, so I hope it's clear what I was getting at ... Sorry, just can’t cope with the angled brackets! The 3 examples I typed were Angel, Miguel & Argüelles, so I hope it’s clear what I was getting at …

]]> By: Nigel Greenwood http://www.linguism.co.uk/language/anglicizing-spanish-2/comment-page-1#comment-1674 Nigel Greenwood Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:38:13 +0000 http://www.linguism.co.uk/?p=72#comment-1674 A very useful summary. There's one possible ambiguity: " and before or <i> are the voiceless velar fricative /x/" would be clearer if you changed the punctuation to ", and before or <i>, are the voiceless velar fricative /x/". (Ie is always /x/.) With there are in principle three possibilities, exemplified by , and : [x], [ɣ] and [ɣw] respectively. Ie the is pronounced only when marked with a diaeresis. Anglophones should therefore be discouraged from saying /san mi'gwel/ when they order a beer. A very useful summary. There’s one possible ambiguity: ” and before or <i> are the voiceless velar fricative /x/” would be clearer if you changed the punctuation to “, and before or , are the voiceless velar fricative /x/”. (Ie is always /x/.)

With there are in principle three possibilities, exemplified by , and : [x], [ɣ] and [ɣw] respectively. Ie the is pronounced only when marked with a diaeresis. Anglophones should therefore be discouraged from saying /san mi’gwel/ when they order a beer.

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